S11 - a diatribe

2002-Sep-11, Wednesday 13:55
thorfinn: (southpark)
[personal profile] thorfinn

Let's start with some URLs, in vague order of seriousness:


Now, if you can't be bothered reading all of the above... Let me summarise.

So, 3000 people died in New York on this day last year. US Civilians, for the most part. Due to a well executed attack from a known and declared enemy of the US. Today, there are several thousand "accidentally" dead Afghani civilians, due directly to US military action in Afghanistan. Fucking get over it already. There are much worse tragedies in the world, that go unmarked, uncelebrated, and unremembered, and not a small number are perpetrated as a direct result of US action.

Last week, depending on your source, US and British warplanes bombed the crap out of either a "civilian airport" or an "air defense" installation. So what if it's the latter, you say? Well, it's Iraqi fucking airspace those warplanes are violating there. Last I checked, there's no declared war. "Just 'cos we feel like it" is not a valid reason to go bombing someone else's country.

Get over it. September 11, 2001 was a small minor disaster. The whole world does not have to go into mourning. Fuck off, America.

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Date: 2002-09-11 07:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmmetta.livejournal.com
i'm noticing a disturbing trend, actually.

even in articles that openly point out that america is disliked for x, y or z, and has done r, s and t... are saying things like the world is "afraid of the power America has", or that the things the yanks do are just what others "think they have done"... it seems like a carefully calculated attempt to come to grips with overwhelming dislike from the rest of the world -- and then make it all ok in the yank mind by describing it as "jealousy", or "delusion".

rather than actually admitting that there is merit in the multitude of reasons for disliking the american government.

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Date: 2002-09-11 23:31 (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
I would just like to say here that reading this makes me more and more proud to be an American citizen who strongly dislikes the American government. (And yes, I'm doing what I can to fix or excise the bits I dislike. That's not just a responsibility, it's a privilege.) I'm all too familiar with the people who claim that it's all about jealousy or delusion. It's an honor not to be one of them.

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Date: 2002-09-17 18:20 (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
I am, and I don't. *)

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Date: 2002-09-12 08:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damned-colonial.livejournal.com
I found this last year, when talking to a bunch of people on IRC a bit after 11th September. There were a few USians involved in the conversations, me (an Australian living in Canada), a couple of other Australians, a couple of Canadians, one person from India, and a bunch of assorted Europeans.

Someone (non-USian) said something like "Well, the US don't exactly make themselves popular with the world. It's not all that surprising that people don't like them." The USians said "You're wrong, the world loves us." The non-USians said "Uh, I assure you that is not the case." This went round and round for quite a while, with the USians simply refusing to believe that the whole world doesn't love, admire and respect them.

I can hardly conceive of what kind of propaganda it must take to convince millions of people that they are so lily-white-perfect that anyone who kills a bunch of their people must necessarily be "insane" rather than, say, pissed off with the US's imperialist bullshit. There seemed to be a total failure to see cause and effect. It was bizarre.

K.

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